Rennes-le-Château

HERE'S ANOTHER PICTURE OF SAUNIERE BEGGING FOR FOOD

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"In the Aude, the peasants rather believe in the malignant spirit, the fairies and the underground geniuses than with the Virgin and the Angels”

It took Marie Denarnaud six months to settle the bill for Sauniere's coffin.

Eric Tull does not know the basic facts of Berenger Sauniere's life of poverty - he was living from borrowed money in 1891 and his "good life" of receiving money from selling masses ran out after 1905. He continued to sell masses from 1905 to 1917 but most of that money (which was considerably less to what he was receiving between 1896-1905) was used up on legal fees to his lawyers who were trying to reinstate him as a priest.

Sauniere was so poor in 1915 that he decided to mortgage his estate to raise money to buy food - that's when his entire estate was valued to the sum of 18.000 francs by the Credit Foncier de France. Marie Denarnaud tried to sell Sauniere's Estate following his death but she could not find a buyer and she lived in extreme poverty (looking after chickens) until Noel Corbu came along in 1946 and decided to look after her in exchange for inheriting her estate - the legal document is dated 1946. It has been reproduced in countless French books.

Eric Tull's ignorance of the subject matter is monumental because his only sources are Henry Lincoln, Nicolas Mazet and The Sion Revelation --- pure Bubblegum nonsense that cannot even be described as bad fiction.

Here is one example of Sauniere's poverty - a letter from Noubel, a furniture shop at Carcassonne dated 7 January 1914:

"Monsieur Saunière,

On looking at your account, I see that you still owe me 6,037 francs, not counting interest, for furniture delivered, for the most part, in 1908. As we must bring this to an end, I have to ask you if you are in a position to settle your account. In the event that you are not able to pay me the full amount, I shall have to ask you to give me a lien on your goods. This will not cause you any inconvenience, and I shall feel much happier. In these circumstances, you will be able to gain some time by just paying the interest."

So ? Your point? Not sure if that's true, you are after all a proven liar (Cholet)



This former housemaid of backwoods priest couldn't sell her estate.

Happens all the time, just look at all those priest housemaids with estates at the turn of the 20th century.

Question

Why was it HER estate?

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"In the Aude, the peasants rather believe in the malignant spirit, the fairies and the underground geniuses than with the Virgin and the Angels”

Eric Tull is still showing that he cannot think properly.
I will respond to his lie yet again - and will continue repeating it until Eric Tull begins to understand.

Notice the dots below .... showing the reader that a passage had been omitted (a universal practice) and notice what Cholet had to say about his excavations following the passage I omitted because the later passage was more interesting and more forthright that nothing could be found beneath the church - that Cholet "persevered as far as the foundations of the church, digging as far as virgin soil. We found the outline of numerous empty vaults" ---- ie, that the tombs beneath the church had themselves disintegrated and all that could be found was their outlines.



"On my own account I excavated both under and behind the altar but found nothing. I also excavated in line with and in front of the altar - again nothing....I was also made to tear up the floor of the church, starting from the pulpit: my sponsor, a pendulum enthusiast, had located the entrance of the underground passageways there – but we found nothing. I persevered as far as the foundations of the church, digging as far as virgin soil. We found the outline of numerous empty vaults. We resumed the same task along the south wall, with approximately the same result, the only difference being that all the human remains, which were missing on the other side, had been placed there higgledy-piggledy. On the advice of a female clairvoyant we were urged to excavate behind the altar – but found nothing." (Cholet's Report, dated 25 April 1967.)

It's true alright - and been widely known about in France since at least 1985 when the coffin receipt was first published - what's more Baigent, Lincoln and Leigh knew they were telling lies because here is the coffin-receipt itself:
http://priory-of-sion.com/posd/img/receipt.jpg

Showing the date 12 June 1917 and not "12 Jan 1917"


Quoting Jean Jacques Bedu from 1990 about this matter:


"In fact, if one believes the authors of 'The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail', Marie Dénarnaud would, strangely, have bought Bérenger Saunière's coffin five days before the priest's death!:

"On 17th January, 1917, Saunière, then in his 65th year, suffered a sudden stroke. The date of 17th January is perhaps suspicious... But what makes Saunière's stroke on January 17th most suspicious is the fact that five days before, on January 12th, his parishioners declared that he had seemed to be in excellent health for a man of his age. Yet on January 12th, according to a receipt in our possession, Marie Dénarnaud had ordered a coffin for her master."

We must condemn these suggestions as vehemently as possible - they are totally erroneous and smack of a clumsy attempt at mystification. First, our three Englishmen find the date of 17th January suspicious - as if Bérenger Saunière had programmed it himself! Second, they boast of having in their possession a receipt bearing witness to the purchase of a coffin 5 days before the death of the priest. It is our duty to assure the reader that they have nothing of the sort, the document in question being in the hands of Claire Corbu and Antoine Captier. We invite you to study its reproduction in the pages of Claire Corbu and Antoine Captier as we have been able to study the original. You will easily spot the point on which we have been misinformed. Marie never ordered a coffin on 12th January; the fact is that the receipt is evidence of payment for a coffin an 12th June, five months later. Our English friends, perhaps not handling translation from French too well, have stumbled. They have confused 'Juin' and 'Janv', Janv being the usual abbreviation for 'Janvier'. What imagination!"

[quote="roscoe]Happens all the time, just look at all those priest housemaids with estates at the turn of the 20th century. [/quote]


Mary Denarnaud wanted to sell her estate because she wanted to eat.
Mary Denarnaud was starving.

Well his income for 1914 was 8473,40. Everyone agrees that however he got his money up to 1909 this source disappeared from 1910 onwards.

From here on his monthly income appeared to be constant. But since the charge of Mass selling was dropped it wasn't from this where he got his money. But to even suggest that Sauniere could make these levels of income from selling masses is the theory of an idiot. Especially since the church found no evidence of him selling masses, if he had been selling at this level it would have been impossible to keep that secret.

In 1908 Sauniere's own accounts say he bought furniture from Maison Noubel in Carcassonne to the value of 7 045,95 F. So where your figure has come from is anyone's guess but we have seen that you can make things up in order to make a point. It's a very understanding person that waits six years for payment.

According to HIS records his annual income started to increase dramatically from 1898, immediately after the murder of Gellis actually. His income reached a peak in 1901 when it reached 25004,70 F for the year. In March 1901 he withdraw 20000 F. The reason for this massive (for the day) withdrawal has never been explained.

Jan-Feb 1905 sees again a large shift of money, it is about this time when the authorities started getting interested in him and trumped up the charge that it must ALL be coming from mass selling solely on the grounds that it couldn't have come from anywhere else. That Sauniere sold masses isn't disputed, what you are trying to gloss over Smith is the fact this was not illegal up to a certain level.

The only reason he was bought to trial was his levels of income and expenditure and this was found to have NOT come from Mass selling and the charge was dropped. Sauniere however refused to tell the Bishop from where he was getting his money and it was this that had got him suspended but he had already resigned at this point.

Sauniere carried on saying mass in a small chapel at the back of the Presbytery and all of the villagers went here rather than to the church and the newly appointed Cure who had to walk from Couiza every day and preached to an empty church.

Sauniere was suspended whilst he was a priest because of his fervant Royalist tendencies and was exiled to Perpignon for a while, but he was reinstated.

To suggest that Sauniere made enough to built the Villa Bethania, the shade gardens and the Tour Magdala solely from selling masses is the suggestions of a section of desperate idiots.

Your only objection to Nicolas Mazet's research is that you can't deal with his conclusions which is pathetic.

roscoe
http://www.rose-croix-veritas.com/mass_nonsense.htm

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"In the Aude, the peasants rather believe in the malignant spirit, the fairies and the underground geniuses than with the Virgin and the Angels”

>>the charge of Mass selling was dropped


Rubbish


>> the church found no evidence of him selling masses


From the sentence 5 November 1910, carried over to the sentence of 5 December 1911

"CONSIDERING that Abbé Bérenger Saunière admits to having requested and obtained a considerable number of Masses, without contesting the figures given by the Official Prosecutor;"


>>Your only objection to Nicolas Mazet's research is that you can't
>> deal with his conclusions which is pathetic.


Mazet's conclusions are idiotic fantasies that are not based on historical facts.

You omitted the bit where he said he'd found a staircase.

You also omitted where he found the document of Dominique de Mirepoix.

He said of this document:



The Lady Regent in this case was Blanche de Castille, the slaughterer of the Cathars at Montsegur. Where is her "baggage" Smith?

Why have you omitted this Smith, if not to deliberately deceive?

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"In the Aude, the peasants rather believe in the malignant spirit, the fairies and the underground geniuses than with the Virgin and the Angels”

Yes you hear it all the time from these backwoods priest's housemaids wanting to sell their estates.

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"In the Aude, the peasants rather believe in the malignant spirit, the fairies and the underground geniuses than with the Virgin and the Angels”

From Nicolas Mazet:



They were digging for the source of Sauniere's wealth. They had nothing on him regarding the selling of masses.

It is clear that Sauniere was getting his wealth from donations up to 1910. But from whom? It seems some people were prepared to give large amounts of money to this priest and his church - Why?

From 1910 onwards the spotlight was on him and he would rather not accept any donations than allow the church to find out who it was that had been giving him money before.

Although treasure has been found around the Aude Valley, commutable treasure was not the source of Sauniere's wealth. Neither was it the selling of masses.

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"In the Aude, the peasants rather believe in the malignant spirit, the fairies and the underground geniuses than with the Virgin and the Angels”

So what you're saying is that Marie Denarnaud either ORDERED Sauniere's coffin six months after his death or she wasn't billed until June.

Is this correct?

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"In the Aude, the peasants rather believe in the malignant spirit, the fairies and the underground geniuses than with the Virgin and the Angels”

Here's the Rennes-le-Chateau mystery that Smith can't explain away; why the inscription on Blanchefort's gravestone is bizarre and why it is a perfect anagram for the shepherdess message. We have every reason to believe that a scientific journal would reproduce a simple gravestone accurately, scientists are known for accuracy, and Smith has no case to the contrary whatsoever. We also have every reason to believe that PS praecum was really on the grave slab. It is plausibly something that would be found on a grave and implausible as a reference to Pierre Plantard. We have the use of the letters PS (as in AOMPS) on Billard's calvary, proving conclusively that this combination of letters existed before Plantard and was used on memorials, and the word praecum, being the Latin translation for the French word priere, is perfectly suited to a grave slab. Finally, how could a scatterbrained alcoholic manage to compose a readable message from the gravestone inscription (miraculous in itself) AND design a highly complex code for that message? There is absolutely nothing to indicate that de Cherisey was capable of this, quite the opposite. Le Popol is gullible and believes alcoholics are geniuses.

Marie Denarnaud was so wealthy she had to look after chickens in order to pay for scraps of food.



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