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MessagePosté: Jeu Aoû 03, 2006 1:21 pm 
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I know about the S&P explanation for the messaeg. "


Since it was Philippe de Cherisey and NOT Brian Ettinger who created the whole thing, the interpretations belong to de Cherisey and to nobody else.


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MessagePosté: Jeu Aoû 03, 2006 1:21 pm 
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Here is demonstrated what kind of people take the myths seriously.

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Here is demonstrated the kind of argument we get from you.

i.e. NOTHING

You'd think a person like you with supposedly ALL the answers would be able to come up with VALID REBUTAL INFORMATION.

What do we get? Gilch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You're speaking volumes Sonny.

You haven't the first damn clue how to answer me, have you? So you reach for the insult.

Next you'll be running away. Your only possible recourse.

Never mind the insults Sonny, answer the Questions.


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MessagePosté: Jeu Aoû 03, 2006 1:28 pm 
Eric Tull's pathetic rubbish can only be ignored.
There is no "running away".
The facts can only be repeated so many times to a certain someone before it becomes apparent that that there is something wrong with that certain someone.

The only person who is running away is Michel Lafosse - living in hiding because he is wanted by both the British and Belgian Authorities.

8) 8) 8)


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MessagePosté: Jeu Aoû 03, 2006 1:42 pm 
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Eric Tull's pathetic rubbish can only be ignored.
There is no "running away".
The facts can only be repeated so many times to a certain someone before it becomes apparent that that there is something wrong with that certain someone.

The only person who is running away is Michel Lafosse - living in hiding because he is wanted by both the British and Belgian Authorities.

8) 8) 8)


Allow me to repeat my rebutal. It's really no use ignoring it.

Please refer to the picture of the two parchments.



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Notice only the first parchment is signed and they are of quite distinctly different paper.

So are you telling me that the back (shepherdess) parchment is also a Photocopy?

Why did de Cherisey make two parchments when one would have been adequate? Why did he fabricate two parchments? Or is the shepherdess one genuine and he only 'altered' the parchement with the D_a_g_o_b_e_r_t text?

You say that he traced the sixteenth century text directly, so how did he raise the letters that makes out the D_a_g_o_b_e_r_t text without this being obvious? Did the original text have the triangle in the corner, was the phrase Redis Bles separated in the original text? Basically he would have to have re-written the whole thing not merely traced it.

Why are these two parchments totally different in their context?

For example, one talks about treasure and a Merovingian king and Sion, a kind of paraphrase of what J Cholet says he discovered the other mentions none of these. What does de Cherisey say he meant by the phrase AD GENESARETH?

But the problem is you see we have known for a long time that de Cherisey altered the text of ONE of the parchments, there's nothing new here. It says on page 301 of The Messianic Legacy (first published 1996 by Henry Lincoln, Michael Baigent and Richard Leigh) the following words:

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In 1979 when we first met M. Plantard, we were told that both of the ciphered texts were in fact forgeries, concocted by the Marquis de Cherisey for a short television story. We challenged this assertion..... M Plantard conceded that the forgeries were based on the originals. In other words, they had not been 'concocted' by M Cherisey at all. They had been copied and M Cherisey had only made a few additions


You're telling us nothing we didn't already know.

Why did de Cherisey write in the magazine CIRCUIT a different solution to the phrase 'Cheval de Dieu' to the one that Chaumeil is touting as being from a confession by Philippe de Cherisey? Saying it was a reference to the Delacroix's painting in the church of Saint Sulpice?

Basically the document called Stone and Paper is de Cherisey's own attempts to try to solve the puzzle. with a rather strange and out of character "confession" appended by someone else in order to discredit the whole thing. Please prove this wrong?

Lastly you still haven't addressed the fact that Jean Luc Chaumeil has been noted to have tried to push fake documents before, so why should we believe him this time? Why has it taken him sixteen years to come out with this? Oh and I need proof that Jean Luc Chaumeil is the legal owner of this document called 'Stone and Paper.


Now answer the bloody questions and stop trying to bluff your way out of them

It's not working

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MessagePosté: Jeu Aoû 03, 2006 1:46 pm 
Quoting from bullshit like The Messianic Legacy and believing in catchpenny authors like Henry Soskin is all that Eric Tull is good for.
And avoiding the facts then pretending they were not given to him.


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MessagePosté: Jeu Aoû 03, 2006 1:50 pm 
Vaincre No. 1, April 1989, page 5.
Quoting Pierre Plantard:
"As regards the question of the ‘famous’ parchments published by ‘a person’ [ie, Gerard de Sede] who claims authority in the matter, that is a fabrication by Philippe de Chérisey for a film on Rennes similar to that of Jean Louis FOURNIER, based on the novel by J.M. THIBAUX called L’OR DU DIABLE (‘The Devil’s Gold’). These latter parchments are of no value at all. The original text is in the BN, in a book of Christian Antiquities."


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Quoting from bullshit like The Messianic Legacy and believing in catchpenny authors like Henry Soskin is all that Eric Tull is good for.
And avoiding the facts then pretending they were not given to him.


So tell me about Jean Luc Chaumeil when he tried to sell a fake document.

What reason will you give that he's not doing precisely the same again?

This answer was given in resonse to Le Popol who's only recourse it seems is to attack the messenger in order to avoid giving the answer.

If you can do it, so can I.


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MessagePosté: Jeu Aoû 03, 2006 1:55 pm 
Philippe de Cherisey's CIRCUIT is not a "magazine".
Eric Tull does not know that much


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MessagePosté: Jeu Aoû 03, 2006 1:57 pm 
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Gstar a écrit:
Put the whole explanation right here, in English, and stop evading like Le Popol.

Wouldn't that be easy ?
My fees for translating the book would be... let's see... 1 € per line, 40 lines per page, 246 pages... sums up to 9.840 €... add miscellaneous expenses and VAT, etc... Bargain for 12.000 € ! What d'ya say ?
Still don't want to buy the book ? Only 20 € !


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MessagePosté: Jeu Aoû 03, 2006 1:57 pm 
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So tell me about Jean Luc Chaumeil when he tried to sell a fake document.


See "Taking The Mickey out of Henry Lincoln" on this very webpage.
See the same answer that has been given dozens of times on this very website.


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MessagePosté: Jeu Aoû 03, 2006 2:01 pm 
Just in case Eric Tull is finding "Taking The Mickey out of Henry Lincoln" on this very webpage, here is the actual URL:
http://www.renneslechateau.com/forums/v ... php?t=1670


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Vaincre No. 1, April 1989, page 5.
Quoting Pierre Plantard:
"As regards the question of the ‘famous’ parchments published by ‘a person’ [ie, Gerard de Sede] who claims authority in the matter, that is a fabrication by Philippe de Chérisey for a film on Rennes similar to that of Jean Louis FOURNIER, based on the novel by J.M. THIBAUX called L’OR DU DIABLE (‘The Devil’s Gold’). These latter parchments are of no value at all. The original text is in the BN, in a book of Christian Antiquities."


Hadn't Philippe de Cherisey been dead for nearly four years at this point and was therefore unable to verify this for himself.

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MessagePosté: Jeu Aoû 03, 2006 2:02 pm 
rennes17 a écrit:
Just in case Eric Tull is finding "Taking The Mickey out of Henry Lincoln" on this very webpage, here is the actual URL:
http://www.renneslechateau.com/forums/v ... php?t=1670


That was posted on 27 Juin 2006
Eric Tull is still asking the question on 3 August 2006


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MessagePosté: Jeu Aoû 03, 2006 2:08 pm 
See Philippe de Cherisey's document 'L’Enigme de Rennes' (1978)


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See Philippe de Cherisey's document 'L’Enigme de Rennes' (1978)


Why what did he say?

Lets debate it here?

Lets see the difference between what you are touting he said compared to what he ACTUALLY said.


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